The 1% Stock Trading Rule

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I didn’t know about that rule before I read it on your site, but then again, I’m not a trader.

I think it’s a pretty good rule to follow, especially if you are a frequent trader. However for someone who is a long term investor I wouldn’t worry too much if you go a bit higher the odd time.

Another way to think of it is to consider the “MER” of your purchase. If you are buying a stock and planning to hold it for 10 years then you could conceivably buy a small amount ie $500, pay $20 in commish (buy & sell) which is 4%. This may seem excessive but if you consider it on an annual basis, it’s only 0.4% based on the original trade amount. If the stock goes up then the “MER” will go down a bit.

I’m not trying to justify higher costs since the costs should be kept as low – only that we should keep costs in perspective and don’t let fees be the main driver of our investment plans.

Mike

Since I don’t frequently invest $3000 in a single ETF, I like Sharebuilder ($4/trade). I’m also interested in trying Zecco for free trades.

FT;
Shouldn’t both buy and sell commissions be included? It’s unrealized gain unless you can sell the stock, so the sell commission should be included as well.

I don’t put a huge emphasis on commissions, though, looking at all my trades, they are under 1% when buy/sell commissions are included.

In the US, IB charges only $1 for 500 shares or less.

I agree with 4Pillars.

Personally I use a 2.0% rule.

Commission divided by (Cost – Commission) = 2% is the max. I go.

I would have never thought of that. Thanks!

Like FP, I didn’t know about this rule. Quite interesting for a day trader. However, if you buy for long term, this should not affect your overall yield too much.
Cheers,
FB.

I don’t necessarily agree. If you are an active trader, definitely. If you are a buy and hold type investor and plan to be into the stock for a few years, then paying more than 1% isn’t necessarily that bad of a thing.

Now, that said… I would suggest that anyone who cannot put at least $500 into EACH stock trade should probably NOT be picking stocks on their own and should instead consider a mutual fund.

It simply isn’t cost effective to spend a lot of time learning about stocks, watching them, etc. to make micro trades.

But most importantly, I’d rather see a person invest $100 in a solid blue chip stock with a $4 or even a $8 commission than not save $100 at all.

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Solid article Frugal! Will make a good read for my readers :P

While I don’t buy individual stocks, this is interesting. I have talked to some active traders who get their costs down to 1% for both buy and sell.

However, they turn over their portfolio about once/month. A 1%/month cost equals a shocking 12% MER!

This is one of the reasons why almost all active traders lose money in the long run.

Ed

Ed, did those active traders give any indications of their performance?

12% mer is indeed shocking.

MIke

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Before buying or selling (using an agent), you should analyze this: “Do this for me, I will give you 2% of my asset, is this reasonable?” The answer depends on your knowledge about the agent. The know-nothing person will probably say it is ok. If you know the agent takes no effort at all, and your data (say, from the annual report of the agent/broker) shows that their profit from doing this is huge, you know you are being taken advantage of, they can cut down their fee. Canadian don’t stand up for being gouged, so the financial institution keep milking the cow.

Another thorn is the real estate industry. Do this for me, I will give you 7% of my asset.

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One way to follow this rule is to buy index mutual funds like S&P 500 ones, which have low annual expense of 0.1%. Or if you must do your own stock selection in US, you can sign up for Zecco – 10 free trades per month is more than you need as a passive investor..

Dividendgrowth: Again, this is a Canadian blog, and Canadians do not have access to American brokerages such as Zecco. Even when we buy US stocks we need to use brokerage with Canadian operations.

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an interesing rule, but very valid. i never really looked at it before, however since i am active i will definitely pay more attn. that being said my trades are always in the thousands so i don’t think this really applies but i think it could effect the sort of stradegy you employ when u trade. i was reading about this one dood, who made very small day trades for a small profit, typically anywhere btw 25 to 180 each. he paid a 10 fee per trade. if he paid a 30 it would severely cramp his style.