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First Time Home Buyer – Qualifying

I got an email from a young graduate the other day regarding obtaining a mortgage for the first time home buyer. I thought that it was a great idea for a post. I guess that some of my posts come across as those for the financially literate, and I don't have much for those just starting out. Well lets dive into this one.

Qualifying for a mortgage:

In Canada, for the first time home buyer, qualifying for a mortgage is based on 3 criteria:

  1. Your current employment income/status
  2. Your credit history
  3. Your current debts

Current Employment Income

The bank isn't going to give you a mortgage unless you have steady income that can support the mortgage. They also look @ income "potential" and may lend you a higher amount based on this. The amount of income required depends on the price of the home/mortgage required and other debts that you may have. More on this below.

Credit History

The banks usually require pristine credit or they won't even consider you as a mortgage candidate. If you have spotty credit, then it's probably best to head to a mortgage broker instead. According to my mortgage broker, most institutions require a credit/beacon score of above 650-680 to qualify for the best rates.

Current Debts

The banks typically look at the Total Debt Service Ratio (TDS) and Gross Debt Service Ratio (GDS).

GDS: The percentage of gross annual income required to cover payments associated with housing. Must be less than 32%.

  • GDS = monthly housing expenses/gross monthly income
  • ex. Mortgage payment = $ 1000, taxes = $200, heat/light=$200, insurance=$50, monthly housing expenses = $1,450. Gross monthly income = $5,000
  • GDS = $1,450/5000 = 29%

TDS: The percentage of gross annual income required to cover payments associated with housing AND other debt. Must be less than 40%.

  • TDS = (monthly housing expenses + other monthly debt servicing)/gross monthly income
  • ex. housing expenses = $1,450/mo, car loan = $500/mo.
  • TDS = $1,450+$500/$5,000=39%

In the above scenario, this person just barely passed the debt servicing ratios.

Other Tips:

  • As a general rule of thumb, providing that you don't have much consumer debt with decent credit, the banks/brokers will give you 2.5-3 times your gross annual income. 
  • Another rule of thumb that I like to use is that you should try to keep your mortgage under 2 x annual income. Live in an expensive city? Then consider saving for a bigger down payment.
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13 Comments

  1. guinness416 on April 18, 2007 at 10:52 am

    Having an advocate in the mortgage department of the bank can help a lot. As a new immigrant late last year, I got a $290,000 mortgage (2.15 x our salaries!) from a major bank with no Canadian credit history and only a six month-ish history with my company. Got a decent rate too. Took a little creative effort, but the woman worked with me, and I persuaded them that I was worth the effort.

  2. Cannon_fodder on April 18, 2007 at 11:23 am

    Guinness416,

    Based on my wife’s experience (before I met her) I would greatly concur. She was turned away again and again because she was a single mother living with family saving as much as she could earn (as a temp agency employee) to accumulate a downpayment. But, through perserverance and perhaps finding a person who could empathize, she found a woman at a major bank who said ‘yes’ when others did not.

    FT – perhaps someone would post information on how to obtain your credit/beacon score.

  3. Hank on April 18, 2007 at 12:10 pm

    How to get your credit score from equifax:
    To answer Cannon_fodder question on how to obtain your credit score:
    http://www.equifax.com/EFX_Canada/consumer_information_centre/faqs_e.html#ques5
    An excerpt:
    “To obtain your credit report, either download a copy of the request form that we’ve included on this web site or call the two largest Canadian credit reporting agencies, Equifax Canada Inc.
    1 800 465 7166 and Trans Union of Canada 1 800 663 9980.”
    To get the report online, you must pay a fee.

  4. Investoid on April 18, 2007 at 9:05 pm

    If you believe the housing bull market theories, saving for a bigger down payment is not going to help you unless you can save at a significantly higher rate than the yearly price increase. If you try and save for a bigger down payment in Alberta, your debt level has only increased over time.

  5. David on April 18, 2007 at 10:08 pm

    Regards saving for a mortgage: CBC has comment on the future market in today’s news. CIBC expects housing prices in Canada to double in the next twenty years. If my math is correct, that equals about 3.6% per year. Of course some markets will outperform that rate, but those expecting the a fall in prices due to the Boomers changing their housing stock would be disappointed, according to the study.

    Those who expect to make a bundle in real estate, will have to choose their markets carefully.

    Tha full story is here
    http://www.cbc.ca/canada/british-columbia/story/2007/04/18/houseprices.html?ref=rss

  6. Investoid » Blog Archive » House: Bought on April 22, 2007 at 5:06 am

    […] In terms of appeal, the most expensive option was in line with what we had in mind for ‘our house’. This would have meant picking up a fairly large mortgage, but one that would be approved without hesitation by any lender. However, I don’t believe in the 30% ‘GDS rule’ (gross debt service ratio, read Million Dollar journey for all the lingo details). Gross income is a meaningless number, unless you can pay our bills with your tax dollars somehow (please contact me if you know how, I’ll give you half of mine!). A 30% GDS rule implies that for a $100K earning family with a 35% marginal tax rate that you should be spending nearly half of your net income on your house. That doesn’t leave much for transportation, food, yet alone any quality of life things you enjoy. If you max out the GDS rule, you’re nearly working solely to pay for your house, once you factor out the other essentials. That doesn’t sound like fun to me. […]

  7. Montrealer on May 22, 2007 at 3:29 pm

    Two times my income wouldn’t even buy a condo in this city.

  8. […] April FrugalTrader05:00 am16 Comments To continue on with the First Time Home Buyer series from last week, I’d like to talk a little about the down payment required for the first time home buyer. There are many options available in Canada for down payments, but the general rule of thumb is, the higher your down payment, the less you pay in terms of fees to obtain your mortgage. […]

  9. […] First Time Home Buyer – Qualifying – Million Dollar Journey … an email from a young graduate the other day regarding obtaining a mortgage for the first time home buyer … If you have spotty credit, then it’s probably best to head to a mortgage broker instead. https://milliondollarjourney.com/first-time-home-buyer-qualifying.htm […]

  10. […] people might have hard time managing such amount of credit available anytime. Nonetheless, if your Total Debt Servicing Ration (TDSR) is in line and you have a strong credit history, you should not have any problems getting the […]

  11. […] Maximum mortgage payments should be no more than 28% of your gross monthly salary. [I think this is what the banks use.] […]

  12. Financiallyenhanced on June 8, 2008 at 4:53 am

    Once you obtain the home loan the best way to pay it off would be to collect all your spare change and at the end of the month add it to your home loan repayment to help reduce the amount of interest you have to pay.

    To learn how to pay off your house quicker check out the following link:

    http://www.financiallyenhanced.com/2008/05/07/reduce-interest-rate-repayments/

  13. Leo on September 2, 2008 at 2:39 am

    FT,

    I commend you on your blog, passion, and community service.

    However, I take issue with the 2x income.

    What would 2x annual income equal? Let’s see:

    1) 35k x 2 = 70k mortgage buys nothing in Vancouver.

    2) 70k x 2 = 140k maybe a mobile home.

    3) 140k x 2 = 280k maybe a studio/1br.

    If the 2x rule is for a severe housing depression in prices, I agree. Otherwise, doing an MLS search would indicate on average, to buy a condo would require more akin to a 6x – 9x. Most folks needing a place in the last half decade simply could not meet this ‘rule’.

    Now, for those buying a house, ‘saving more’ would take another decade just to make the down payment. Looking at the Vancouver price graph over the last 30 years indicates prices over long term trends increase faster than income grows, or savings abilities for most.

    Wish all the best. Hopefully relief is coming.

  14. […] initial problem with purchasing is qualifying for the mortgage at her current salary.  Purchasing the condo would result in a month housing expenses of at least […]

  15. Marcus on November 9, 2008 at 1:44 am

    I believe by 2.5-3x he means the mortage payment, not the actual value of the home.

    I’m looking at purchasing a home between 2.5mil – 3.0mil here in California. Our joint income is about 500k/yr. We’re looking at an lease option to purchase, with 24 month terms. Our growth in our salaries is about 30% a year. So I’m hoping I can qualify for a super jumbo fixed by then, we however have never purchased a home, so I’m still not confident we’ll qualifiy.

  16. Scott on November 9, 2008 at 12:34 pm

    I posted this on the ‘Real Estate Crash in Canada’ thread:

    “I’ve read articles from different sources stating a “normal” or “natural” residential house value is around 3.5 times the median income of that given area. Is this something that holds true through real estate history? Or is it just another number someone made up?

    If this were the case, and the median Canadian household income (2 people, no children) is around $55-60,000, that would mean a “natural” valuation for a Canadian house is around $200,000. According to CREA, the Sept/08 national value is almost $290,000 — 45% over-priced?

    Since we all know wages increase at a dead man’s pace, do we have to look forward to loosing nearly half the value of our homes, or more if we live on the West coast?!”

    As far as I can tell, with the amount of posters claiming “this will get me nothing in this city”, yes, Canadian house prices are over-priced, and it seems by a lot.

  17. cannon_fodder on November 9, 2008 at 2:21 pm

    Scott,

    There just seems to be something that irks me with 3.5x ratio. For example, if you have an area with a high proportion of retirees, wouldn’t one expect their incomes to be quite low yet the house prices might still be high because these are bought and paid for?

    I think there are too many factors to make me believe one could reasonably expect the 3.5x ratio to be usable everywhere.

    To me, the simple test of how much homes are worth is based on how much they are selling for at that time.

  18. Carolyn Deas on March 1, 2009 at 3:40 pm

    I seem to be having trouble finding anything that tells me about the 1st time home owners grant. As in how much it is. does it need to be repayed, ect. Any infomation would be appreciated. I live in Alberta if that helps. thanks in advance.

  19. FrugalTrader on March 1, 2009 at 11:02 pm

    Carolyn: You can read more about the home buyers plan here: https://milliondollarjourney.com/how-the-rrsp-home-buyers-plan-hbp-works.htm

    If you’re talking about the new govt tax credit for first time home buyers, you can read more about it here:
    https://milliondollarjourney.com/federal-budget-2009-personal-opinion-and-highlights.htm

  20. […] https://milliondollarjourney.com/first-time-home-buyer-qualifying.htm Another rule of thumb that I like to use is that you should try to keep your mortgage under 2 x annual income. Live in an expensive city? Then consider saving for a bigger down payment. […]

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